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Bawb Zennshinagas
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Posted - 2016.06.20 23:37:12 -
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RIP mac players? I understand there was literally 0 developer care for the IGB on Mac, but I don't know of any viable, supported overlays. Steam is a heap of trash that crashes consistently.
I really want to play this game, but it's only getting harder and harder.
CCP FoxFour wrote: Is there a reason you're unwilling to use an Overlay?
Because There aren't any for Mac users? |
Bawb Zennshinagas
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Posted - 2016.06.21 00:02:20 -
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Nicholas Vierra wrote:Bawb Zennshinagas wrote:RIP mac players? I understand there was literally 0 developer care for the IGB on Mac, but I don't know of any viable, supported overlays. Steam is a heap of trash that crashes consistently. I really want to play this game, but it's only getting harder and harder. CCP FoxFour wrote: Is there a reason you're unwilling to use an Overlay?
Because There aren't any for Mac users? The Ingame browser will still be around until october, Links just wont default to it. By the time October rolls around, You will probably already be using your iOS / Android device as your browser / EVE Multitool for ingame and out of game stuff, or of course you will also be able to use Safari, FireFox, Edge or Chrome to access the same tools, along with your legacy tools. !
I don't have an iPad and no way in hell I'm relying on my iPhone for regular information for Eve. I don't see how the october time frame has any relevance to the fact that there is absolutely no overlay options for Mac users, are you just arguing we must be at a disadvantage compared to windows players? The IGB/Overlay aspect is hugely valuable, and honestly pretty critical to a lot of activity in the game. |
Bawb Zennshinagas
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Posted - 2016.06.21 00:08:28 -
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Nicholas Vierra wrote: As a new player I did not find out about the IGB untill I clicked a link in Local chat... It was a Porn Link. I did not use it again until my CEO linked me to some tools like Dotlan, which worked better for me out of game than they did in game. I did most of my web / tools stuff out of game on a phone, tablet, in station ALT-Tabbing, and I learned most of the game mechanics from EXPERIENCING the game, watching video's, and learning from my corpmates. At no time have I ever been dependent on the In game browser. I learned how to play without it, it made no difference for me as a newbie, and I doubt it would for anyone else if they hadn't been TAUGHT to rely on it. Times Change, Games change, and the tools will also change.
Some of us use it quite exhaustively, because we have to. |
Bawb Zennshinagas
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Posted - 2016.06.21 00:58:51 -
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Airi Cho wrote:Lt Shard wrote:Just because you dont use it daily doesn't mean others dont yes and you should have worked for months if not years to make yourself less reliant on the IGB. so start now to port your things to crest. ask the devs of your tools to start using crest. and then give constructive feedback to the devs. things like "we tried to port XYZ from the IGB to crest using resources X and Y. but we run into a problem. was our way the right one?" but it doesnt matter how much time you give people there will still be people complaining at the next announcement or when the deadline finally hits.
Developer platforms is not what that statement is referring to, it's referring to the player use, and the lack of overlay existence for Mac users.
This is as close to constructive as Mac users can get, THERE IS NO OPTION FOR US. |
Bawb Zennshinagas
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Posted - 2016.06.21 01:12:14 -
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Airi Cho wrote:Bawb Zennshinagas wrote:This is as close to constructive as Mac users can get, THERE IS NO OPTION FOR US. basically you are using a version of wine. you can try to run overwolf under wine too and see if it can attach to the other window running under wine. if you really need that overlay stuff. but i was more talking about all the apps still relying on the old IGB headers.
Yes, the quote you quoted was in reference to mac users using the IGB as a player. AFAIK there's no way to easily attach a separate wine application to another wine instance, the only option would be running it inside of the Eve WINE container, of which may require modification for compatibility.... and I don't know if the CCP security guys would approve. I certainly haven't been able to find any details on doing such a thing.
This is assuming Overwolf even plays nice. |
Bawb Zennshinagas
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Posted - 2016.06.21 07:10:51 -
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nezroy wrote:Quick note for all those talking about overlays. You don't need anything nearly that complex or annoying. If you are running EVE in Fixed Window mode, which is equivalent to every other game's Fullscreen Windowed mode (and doesn't everyone do this already anyway for a million other reasons?), then you can use any kind of always-on-top flagger to just set a chrome/safari/whatever window to be always on top of the EVE client. For example, see the one-line autohotkey script mentioned here.
Does not work for Mac users.
Julian Aldurald wrote: Get all the overlays odds including a proper overlay browser you'll love it. Ill try to test out a couple configurations for people like you as well and ill try to show you something thats decently handy to use.
Please enlighten me to a Mac overlay, because I've been looking all night and only found one that required not only compiling a piece of software but disabling SIP which is absolutely not an acceptable solution. |
Bawb Zennshinagas
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Posted - 2016.06.22 04:48:31 -
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Haha, screw your color accuracy. -CCP as they continue to push ********, unthought out, unusable overlay solutions.
Browsers are in a pretty sad state these days. So much feature creep, too little usefulness. |
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